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J Andrew Meyer's avatar

Fantastic article! The psychological phenomenon illustrated by the Millgram experiments is one reason why the development of AI chat bots with their “hallucinations” is so alarming. Forget the whole “singularity” clap-trap! It will be the average Joe’s belief in AI as authoritative that will cause all manner of injustices and cruelties to be inflicted upon humanity. Heck, it already happens now with the relatively primitive algorithms in use today.

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TJ's avatar

In Weimerica, "doctors" are mutilating the genitals of children, and creating faux, completely unfunctional penises from the skin off the arms of young, mentally disturbed girls. This ghoulish "affirming" surgery leaves scars that would shock Josef Mengele.

The "authorities" have forcibly removed children from homes where parents object to their kids being used as guinea pigs. And millions of Weimericans not only tolerate it, but celebrate and support it, some going as far as securing the continuance of this horror show by codifying it into law.

As long as this is allowed to continue no one in Weimerica is in a position to judge Nazi Germany; no one.

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TheAbjectLesson's avatar

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

John 8:7

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Eldon Beck's avatar

This is fantastic. I'm a Marine Corps judge advocate currently writing a paper about the civil-military implications of the unlawful application of the COVID vaccine mandate in the U.S. military. The insights and additional context you provide on Milgram's experiment tie into my analysis of the supposedly obvious choice and duty to disobey a "manifestly unlawful" order versus the unclear, disfavored, and risky choice to disobey an order that is not clearly unlawful, but morally objectionable. Of course, with orders coming from the strategic level, both the facts and law are always complex. When senior leaders assiduously label their most problematic orders as "lawful," they deter the vast majority of Service members from thinking seriously about disobeying, no matter how grave/compelling their reservations, because they will brand and treat as "lawbreakers" and "orders violators" those who have the temerity to just question whether military leaders might have violated the law or done something without proper authority. Your treatment of how this plays out in the military context is excellent and quite accurate.

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TheAbjectLesson's avatar

Cheers, Marine. I retired in 2018. I was a 7565 and then a 4402 for almost 20 years. Semper fidelis.

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Graham R. Knotsea's avatar

The victors (the communists, in our case) write the history books. Through their control of the MSM, Hollywood, etc., the sheeple believe the good guys were evil.

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D D's avatar

This was a very interesting read for me. Having experienced some of the "turning" against me during the mandate and experiencing the repercussions of not being vaxxed, and hearing the reasons why people choose to comply, this analysis fits right in. It also fits the profile of gangs and the ensuing "thugs." Riding with the Hells Angels for a bit was an eye-opening experience for a 19 year old. It has been the reference for much of my armchair psychology, as well as having been a front row participant in a New Age religious cult for 12 years. The tactics used are the same as today with the current fear and bully structure.

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TheAbjectLesson's avatar

Glad you got something from this. I think both the Millgram experiment and Jerry Harvey's "Abilene Paradox" explain a LOT about human behavior, particularly as regards our willingness to "go along to get along" even when the thing we're going along with is something we know in the pit of our stomach is capital "W" WRONG. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox

It's an uncomfortable truth about people as social animals that Progressives refute because their belief is rooted in the false idol of Man as "tabula rasa".

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D D's avatar

Thanks for the "Abilene" reference. Off topic, do you know of Dannion Brinkley? He was a Marine mercenary in the 70's, got struck by lightning and had a "wake-up". I know him personally and he is the real deal. He has a number of books out explaining what happened.

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TheAbjectLesson's avatar

Never heard of him. You got an link to any of his stuff online? Or should I check amazon?

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D D's avatar

lightstreamers.com/dannion brinkley couldn't post the link...

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Korpijarvi's avatar

Milgram was a ziobot.

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TheAbjectLesson's avatar

Certainly not the worst, but one of the primary, annoyances with with all of you who's first reaction to this article is to go right to "THE JOOSSZZSSS!!!" is that you're like a one-note cymbal - a human triangle. TING.TING.TING. It's a fixation that renders you less than useless because you can't even stay on a topic if DA JOOZ appear anywhere in the surrounding narrative. You're. a caricature of that which you hate, a walking lizard brain reaction that thinks it's clever.

This post has literally NOTHING to do with "DA JOOZ" other than by way of background. It's about what an average *goyim* off the street in New Haven, CT, was willing to do to his fellow Man with a little prompting from a guy in a lab coat. THAT's the point of the piece. Nice way to miss it completely while screaming about whatever incidental appearance JEWS had to do with it.

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Korpijarvi's avatar

Nice boomer rant.

But the fact is, he went into psychology, and academic psychology, out of a hostility to the founding stock culture of the United States, and a sense of paranoia, or neurosis, about being a jew inside of it. He wrote about it, talked about it, admitted it. So why you would erase that in favor of your rant I will let you ponder.

Meanwhile I will ponder why it is that 'stackers like you give Bolshevik mass murder a pass...while jumping up and down about highly contrived, and politically motivated, research based on putting white Christian undergrads in rarefied academic situations, treating them like lab animals, then pressuring them to do what Teacher wanted them to do.

You posted this in a way that doesn't allow the affixing of images/screencaps.

So adieu, and have a nice Victimization Industry.

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Commander Nelson's avatar

Unlike Fauci with the unvaccinated, Hitler at least kind of had a point about the Jews. Whether or not you believe that that was the right way to deal with it.

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